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Shelly Gross's avatar

Under Amendment 14 section 3 trump is automatically Disqualified for office. In Legality/Reality he is not the president of the United States.

I've spoken to an attorney and have learned that every citizen of this country has a right (obligation) to file a lawsuit in federal court demanding his dismissal under Amendment 14. I will be speaking more on this in the coming days and am willing to help people fill out their court documents.

How many people can we get to file suit to have him removed, removed by the military if need be. 14/3 is the fastest way to legally have him removed, and since he is illegitimate, Vance and all his appointees will be removed automatically. His executive orders, pardons, etc...

will all be undone.

Democrats failed to use this law, this Amendment written in 1866 for this exact scenario. Out leadership failed and left it to the People to due their, now our, duty. One million people filing suit is the aim. Two milllion is better.

I am the person who planned the Jan 4th protest in DC to lobby Congress to use 14/3. Along with advocate Rachel B. we teamed up with Jessica Denson, from Lights On on YouTube.

Unfortunately, Democratic leadership refused to follow the Constitutional Amendment. The Amendment was added to our Constitution for the following purposes: someone becomes president and decides he will be a king replacing our Republic with a monarchy. Also of concern was a person would seek the presidency to be a dictator, to enrich himself, to end the Republic and gain complete control over our lives. Another reason for this amendment is one you can readily find in the archives, the fear that a president would make slavery legal again.

I don't think we are that far away from the 1866 author's fear of slavery returning. Just as I don't think we are that far away from a Handmaid's Tale.

We must do our duty, the task the Democrats failed to use. We must invoke 14/3. This is our right, our job as a citizen of this country.

The safe guards have been in place since 1866. This was our promise that we would never live under Authoritarian Rule. The off ramp was there, codified in black and white, the highest of laws,the law of the land. But, Democrat leadership, once again, chose the high road instead of the off ramp leaving us to live in a dystopian nightmare.

My question to all who see this is, Will you fill out your court document and take it to your Capitol's Federal Court and have it filed? Will you tell your partner, your family, your friends that this must be done? Will you help an elder to file theirs? Will you take an hour out of your life to save your country? Will you help us get to one million filings to ensure he is removed?

He is an illegitimate president. Amendment 14 Section 3 states he is automatically Disqualified to serve in any office of this country.

Unlike our leadership, I choose to follow the law and invoke the Disqualification Clause which was written for We the People, as a promise to us, our children, all who live in this country..The codified promise that we would never have to live in a Dictatorship.

Will you choose to honor the Constitution? Will you choose to have him and his ilk removed? We need one million yes's. Are you one of the million?

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Liz's avatar

I am a definite yes, and can vouch for 10 others. We need the Democratic members of Congress, and all the Harris/Walz VIPs behind this 100%. We also need International support. STAT.

Thoughts????

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P. J. Schuster's avatar

We do have international support!! I watched/listened to the entire 25 hrs & 6 mins of Sen Cory Booker’s speech on his TikTok, & I saw comments from all over the world cheering him & all of us Americans on.

It has been so demoralizing to see our Democrat electeds fail to meet this moment & do their duty to protect & defend the Constitution & the people who depend upon them.

I agree with the author of this piece that Donald J Trump has committed multiple crimes of sedition & treason.

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Laurie's avatar

Nearly every single action that he has taken has been treasonous at its core, in the sense that all of his actions have been taken to undermine and destroy the American democracy and our government

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H.G.'s avatar

Trump has definitely committed fellion to.

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Marlo's avatar

Harris’s husband is an attorney. HE should file this!

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Marlo's avatar

Did you do it? If we all do it we have a chance.

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Brian Colvin's avatar

I'll do it as long as I don't need to hire an attorney. I'm broke broke.

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WinstonSmithLondonOceania's avatar

That makes two of us. I'd love to do it.

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Kirk Martin's avatar

Let’s do this! How do we find your info on these court docs to submit?

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Shelly Gross's avatar

I'm trying to find the lawyer, still ugh!!

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Marium Johnson's avatar

I would love to! Give me some instruction!

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Laurie's avatar

I’m a hell yes as well! And I know that my entire family would also file those papers, including those who actually made the mistake of voting for Trump. Let’s do this. We gotta do something; as of right now we do have international support, I think that our allies would be happy to help us form a United States government in exile and overthrow this treasonous regime, but the American people have to stand up first and make it clear that we are not going to take this. I have an article, or post, written on this exact subject that will be posted later on today so keep an eye out for that.

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Marlo's avatar

Shelly, how do we proceed?

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Shelly Gross's avatar

I just posted a video yesterday of how we proceed. Let me find it again!!

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Marlo's avatar

Is it too late since the “handover” and inauguration has already taken place? Shouldn’t this have been done prior?

The Colorado Supreme Court ruled he was ineligible but the Supreme Court ruled the states could not refuse to put him on the ballot. In effect, by doing that they ruled he was eligible. Would they change their minds now? (Barrett might, Alito & Thomas won’t). Not to discourage but would they realistically have votes?

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Shelly Gross's avatar

Not too pate

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WinstonSmithLondonOceania's avatar

I think you're right. Totally.

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Andrew Darroch's avatar

It would seem simpler to force the Supreme Court to declare the Electoral College vote invalid, as the election suffered fraud from a stealth insurrection and had nominated an ineligible candidate, whose insurrection disqualification was not removed by Congress.

The Democrat States could easily take such a case to the Supreme Court.

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Erik's avatar

Too much to prove too little time.

Treason is cut and dry, the acts are undeniable, there is nothing that needs to be proven. It simply IS TREASON.

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Andrew Darroch's avatar

Except, no one will enforce Trump’s treason, unless the army steps in. By making Trump’s Presidency invalid, you make everything he has done illegal and he is powerless. Kamala Harris then just needs an emergency swearing in. To achieve it, the States could go straight to the Supreme Court and those Justices, who participated in the illegal swearing in, would have to recuse themselves.

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Erik's avatar

As for swearing in Kamala? Nah, we have a line of succession, most of which are part of this conspiracy. You could only install Hariss if you could prove the election was stolen. I believe it was, but I cannot prove it.

This explains who will remove Trump. https://ourcivicduty.substack.com/p/who-will-remove-trump

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Shelly Gross's avatar

Check out Electiontruthalliance.org

They can prove he didn't win the election.

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Erik's avatar

I've watched it. I agree. However, it is easier for the USA to understand treason charges than algorithmic vote flipping. However, if while wrapping up the rebellion such a conspiracy was to come to light...

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AmiCallais's avatar

It’s been proven, the research has been done, early on in this take over.

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Tracey Angle's avatar

Yes, even if Trump and his cabinet were successfully removed, I do believe the line of succession would then come into play and Mike Johnson would be next in line. He was duly elected by his constituents and not part of Trump's selected cabinet.

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Marlo's avatar

But Mike Johnson helped orchestrate the Jan 6 insurrection! So wouldn’t he be removed?

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WinstonSmithLondonOceania's avatar

At least he should be, that's for sure.

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P. J. Schuster's avatar

Holy MAGA Mike would be just as evil. The only good thing about having him elevated to President is that he is a weak, cowardly, weasel & would most likely be ineffectual.

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Tracey Angle's avatar

We'd get rid of alot of the problem people but not all of them...and we'd still have the Maga GOP majority in Congress stopping anything useful getting repaired or passed.

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Erik's avatar

I disagree with that. The GOP in the House have failed to uphold their oath, maintain their authority via article 1 sections 7 and 8, and have continued to vote in support of Trump's unconstitutional nullification of congressionally enacted Federal Departments. That is an assault on our constitution and our nation. They have destroyed more Federal Departments beyond their ability to operate or repair than any war ever fought by the United States.

They are co-conspirators of a Seditious Conspiracy and Chief Justice Marshal in 1807 laid out that no matter how minute, no matter how far from the actual act, anyone involved in the plotting or execution of such acts is guilty of treason.

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Laurie's avatar

That’s gonna happen anyway. This is not going to be kick Trump out and everything goes back to normal. It wasn’t normal before he took office and it’s not going to be normal after we get rid of him. The United States of America needs an overhaul. Our government has become a government that is solely about protecting the rights of the wealthy, instead of protecting the rights of the working class people who make them wealthy. Serious reforms need to be enacted. All the gerrymandered districts in all the red states need to be fixed for instance. Citizens United needs to be overthrown so that we don’t have all this dark money in politics. Our election system is unwieldy and does create opportunities for people to at least question what they’re being told of the results. We’ve got to get rid of media outlets that routinely lie to their viewers instead of giving them the facts of that what is going on in their country. We have a lot of work to do.

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GuessWeAreHereNow's avatar

HERE ARE WAYS WE CAN ALL FIGHT BACK IN USA.

#1) ALL OF US NEED TO USE the 14th Amendment (created post-Civil War to use against Confederate insurrectionists acting in rebellion of the Constitution)

https://substack.com/@guessweareherenow/note/c-99072661?r=2vn25m&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action

This attorney explains how to file suits, what to write in suit, how to overcome filing in a red district, how to file without paying any money, and much more!

#2) Sign up for nationwide strike, which has successfully changed governments in the past. We need 3.5% of country participation to change laws and make a difference. Sign up and share: https://generalstrikeus.com/

#3) Participate in @The 50501 Movement

#4) Vets engage with - and march with - https://www.veteransfightingfascism.org/

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Sarah's avatar

Yes I will.

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WinstonSmithLondonOceania's avatar

Absolutely. And equally - if not more - important, the laws pertaining to treason don't have the words "by force" in them. So it's a lot more cut and dry.

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P. J. Schuster's avatar

That you would believe that those corrupt 6 on the Supreme Court would do the right thing is almost laughable. They have proven time & time again that their allegiance is to Trump & not to the law, the United States, or it’s citizens.

I have zero trust in this current SCOTUS. They have twisted the words of the Constitution to achieve the outcomes they desire too many times. All 6 of those corrupted criminals should also be removed from their positions & charged with sedition.

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Andrew Darroch's avatar

It only needs a majority. It is the only peaceful way to get rid of a usurper who is still ineligible and also stole the election. In the end they are lawyers and if they can’t wriggle around and twist the Constitution to serve Trump, they will say so. However, it’s academic until there is a general clamour about the rigged election to support a case, because no State Governor is willing to stand up to push it, such is the Sunday School belief in free and fair elections.

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Rosemary's avatar

You mean Trump’s corrupt Supreme Court?🤔😡😈

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Andrew Darroch's avatar

I suspect many on the Supreme Court are aghast at the monster they have released.

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Tracey Angle's avatar

I skeptical about that when it comes to Thomas, Alito, and Roberts

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Laura Timares's avatar

The Supreme Court started the fascist domino effect with their Citizen's United ruling (money can buy votes) and Presidential Immunity. What else would they expect. Trump patted Roberts on the shoulder and thanked him repeatedly. Hmmmm.

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Andrew Darroch's avatar

Tricky but worth a try. It’s the only course that will rid the USA of the Project2025 gang.

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Rosemary's avatar

I would hope so and we will find out!

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P. J. Schuster's avatar

I would hope so, because they have set themselves up to be made irrelevant by that monster that they handed all of that immunity to. He can now decide to ignore their rulings, & they will have zero power to do a damned things about it. The Congress is already working on a bill to limit the power of the federal district courts. If they get away with that, what’s next?

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WinstonSmithLondonOceania's avatar

Unfortunately, we have an illegitimate Supreme Court. Roberts isn't even >trying< to pretend otherwise anymore.

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Laurie's avatar

Except how the hell are we gonna force the Supreme Court to do that? They clearly aren’t interested

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Khalila RedBird's avatar

How might someone TBD force SCOTUS to do such a thing?

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Andrew Darroch's avatar

The States carry weight to force the Supreme Court to consider the case and if the case is iron-tight, they will not make a judgement against the Constitution. They are sitting there knowing they have unleashed an insurrection and a non-Republican form of Government and are hoping no one calls them to account. With the election being rigged, there is no way for the Supreme Court to squirm out of it. All that’s required is one or more State Governors with the guts to take them on.

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Suszan's avatar

The republikkkans in Congress are part of the election fraud. Johnson and trump showed he was an accessory at the msg rally. tRump told us for months he was committing election fraud and confessed on Jan 19. Paxton backed this up in a turning point speech while laughing. Kamala was elected

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GuessWeAreHereNow's avatar

Exactly! Here is how we can hold them all accountable!!

HERE ARE WAYS WE CAN ALL FIGHT BACK IN USA.

#1) ALL OF US NEED TO USE the 14th Amendment (created post-Civil War to use against Confederate insurrectionists acting in rebellion of the Constitution - this includes “POTUS,” and offending members of “scotus” and Congress)

https://substack.com/@guessweareherenow/note/c-99072661?r=2vn25m&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action

This attorney explains how to file suits, what to write in suit, how to overcome filing in a red district, how to file without paying any money, and much more!

#2) Sign up for nationwide strike, which has successfully changed governments in the past. We need 3.5% of country participation to change laws and make a difference. Sign up and share: https://generalstrikeus.com/

#3) Participate in @The 50501 Movement

#4) Vets engage with - and march with - https://www.veteransfightingfascism.org/

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Ghostwriter in the Sky ✨💘's avatar

Contact Fred Wellman at Meidas Touch to get on his show "On Democracy" to amplify this historic legal challenge & rescue of reality. Check out his latest warnings & response to fascist regime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLgEcJFRSL4&list=PLF9F59D36819426DF&ab_channel=MeidasTouch

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Laura Timares's avatar

Agreed, spread the word on MeidasTouch!

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HerHolyGrizzle's avatar

DO IT. @FREDWELLMAN

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Tracey Angle's avatar

It would be great if Marc Elias or Lawrence Tribe were consulted on this idea and how to make it successful.

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Donna R.'s avatar

Ok Erik. Wish I were a federal attorney. A CNN article dated 1-26-25 says "pardons were withheld from 14 whom were charged with seditious conspiracy. Two people I recommend sending your article to are Jamie Raskin and Glenn Kirschner. I truly am praying that all wrong doing is being worked behind the scenes and they all go to prison and or get removed from federal office. It's clear to me anyway it's a government coup.

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Erik's avatar

Correct, they received commutations. Which ends sentence but does not forgive.

However, that doesnt matter, because either way those seditionists are still out of prison, still provided aid and comfort, still were enemies as Trump planned to provide them said aid and comfort, and that means trump adheres to what they want and believe. Trump is a traitor. CNN can suck a fascist log. :P

I spose I'll send those two some letter :) Thanks!

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Donna R.'s avatar

Yes do. Your hard work deserves attention.

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Laura Timares's avatar

Agreed, Jamie and Glen need to spread the word. But why didnt they figure this out all ready and act!

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GuessWeAreHereNow's avatar

HERE ARE WAYS WE CAN ALL FIGHT BACK IN USA.

#1) ALL OF US NEED TO USE the 14th Amendment (created post-Civil War to use against Confederate insurrectionists acting in rebellion of the Constitution)

https://substack.com/@guessweareherenow/note/c-99072661?r=2vn25m&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action

This attorney explains how to file suits, what to write in suit, how to overcome filing in a red district, how to file without paying any money, and much more!

#2) Sign up for nationwide strike, which has successfully changed governments in the past. We need 3.5% of country participation to change laws and make a difference. Sign up and share: https://generalstrikeus.com/

#3) Participate in @The 50501 Movement

#4) Vets engage with - and march with - https://www.veteransfightingfascism.org/

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Lynn Sherick's avatar

Start the process. What are you waiting for?

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Stephanie's avatar

Al Green needs to use this. I don’t think Vance or Musk should be let off the Treason train. They’re co-conspirators!!

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Y eYe I's avatar

They rigged the election as well; isn’t this treason as well?

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And the COUP continues: trumpet rigged the 2024 election with the help of muskito to avoid not crossing go and be sent directly to jail without cashing 200 million dollars…

                        🫣

                   🫵 YOU 🫵

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⚠️THEY STOLE THE ELECTION⚠️

    ⚠️THEY ARE ILLEGITIMATE⚠️

        ⚠️WE OWE THEM SHIT⚠️

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WE REALLY need to do something here…

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Either we share this PDF with Senators, House Reps, Governors, Police, Military, Defense Groups, Election Officials and ALL our Contacts, OR WE’RE FUCKED UP!

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It’s as fucking simple as that!

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WE NEED TO SHARE THIS PDF:

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➡️➡️➡️https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/cnfhgispz8ldgzubdh6a0/2024-USA-ELECTION-FRAUD-PRESIDENCY.pdf?rlkey=epj05do03qhflx5v0tbfinlmf&⬅️⬅️⬅️

I STRONGLY suggest you take a look at this as well: https://substack.com/@zorhasbsfreezone/note/p-158250381?r=58o4ii&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action

And the suite:

https://open.substack.com/pub/zorhasbsfreezone/p/the-real-story-part-2?r=58o4ii&utm_medium=ios

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GuessWeAreHereNow's avatar

Exactly! #1 below, this attorney describes exactly what to include in a suit detailing how they’ve acted in rebellion of the Constitution

HERE ARE WAYS WE CAN ALL FIGHT BACK IN USA.

#1) ALL OF US NEED TO USE the 14th Amendment (created post-Civil War to use against Confederate insurrectionists acting in rebellion of the Constitution - this includes “potus,” and select members of “potus” and Congress)

https://substack.com/@guessweareherenow/note/c-99072661?r=2vn25m&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action

This attorney explains how to file suits, what to write in suit, how to overcome filing in a red district, how to file without paying any money, and much more!

#2) Sign up for nationwide strike, which has successfully changed governments in the past. We need 3.5% of country participation to change laws and make a difference. Sign up and share: https://generalstrikeus.com/

#3) Participate in @The 50501 Movement

#4) Vets engage with - and march with - https://www.veteransfightingfascism.org/

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HerHolyGrizzle's avatar

YES IT IS

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Wendy MacBain's avatar

How do we get our reps to start the process? Most are ignoring calls and emails from constituents. So far to my knowledge, only one representative has filed for the impeachment of DT.

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GuessWeAreHereNow's avatar

Love this! Yes!! What are your thoughts on this and, if in alignment, please amplify and share out (as well as file suits??)

HERE ARE WAYS WE CAN ALL FIGHT BACK IN USA.

#1) ALL OF US NEED TO USE the 14th Amendment (created post-Civil War to use against Confederate insurrectionists acting in rebellion of the Constitution)

https://substack.com/@guessweareherenow/note/c-99072661?r=2vn25m&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action

This attorney explains how to file suits, what to write in suit, how to overcome filing in a red district, how to file without paying any money, and much more!

#2) Sign up for nationwide strike, which has successfully changed governments in the past. We need 3.5% of country participation to change laws and make a difference. Sign up and share: https://generalstrikeus.com/

#3) Participate in @The 50501 Movement

#4) Vets engage with - and march with - https://www.veteransfightingfascism.org/

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Wendy MacBain's avatar

This is awesome! Thanks for sharing!

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Sarah's avatar

There are far too many nuts here. Let’s just DO IT !!!!

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Sarah's avatar

I meant too many nuts. Or hesitations, if you will.

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GuessWeAreHereNow's avatar

We don’t have to rely on just them!

HERE ARE WAYS WE CAN ALL FIGHT BACK IN USA.

#1) ALL OF US NEED TO USE the 14th Amendment (created post-Civil War to use against Confederate insurrectionists acting in rebellion of the Constitution)

https://substack.com/@guessweareherenow/note/c-99072661?r=2vn25m&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action

This attorney explains how to file suits, what to write in suit, how to overcome filing in a red district, how to file without paying any money, and much more!

#2) Sign up for nationwide strike, which has successfully changed governments in the past. We need 3.5% of country participation to change laws and make a difference. Sign up and share: https://generalstrikeus.com/

#3) Participate in @The 50501 Movement

#4) Vets engage with - and march with - https://www.veteransfightingfascism.org/

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Never Trumper's avatar

Shut Down the White House Trump Administration for Fraud, Waste and Horrific Abuse of Americans.

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Linda Peragine's avatar

Thank you for this level of correct detail. I sent postcards to 20 Senators and called 100 Reps to read them 2381 in Feb’ when Trump/Vance blatantly insulted NATO, Ukraine and adhered to Russia & gave comfort. No replies. No action.

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Tulpewi's avatar

Share this with Bernie and AOC, maybe they can light a fire under this and create a movement

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Marilyn Waxberg's avatar

Ok we have a lot of Constitutional and legalize in this post. I would ask that Norm Eisen give this article a simple overview if it can be done, yes or no.

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Denise G.'s avatar

If it’s fear that’s keeping this action from being taken it’s far more frightening to think of our democracy being destroyed by overlooking these crimes and inviting them to repeat in the future. The basic principles stated in the constitution and the rule of law must be upheld protected and enforced. Betrayal of these tenets is unacceptable.

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Karen Bojarski's avatar

What an incredible article. So WHY is the trumper cult still in power. You have ALL the information here in one place. Why does your country spout so many rules but are doing nothing to remove them?

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Janet Andrea's avatar

Such a good point

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Jaime Ramirez's avatar

My suggestion is that if no government official is willing to carry out their constitutional duty of arresting & removing Trump & other violators of the Constitution, for millions of American citizens to converge at 1 time on the Capitol (or Mar al Lago) to make a citizens' arrest of Trump.

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